There is a word on the Internet called “Net-style Europe” (ナーロッパ), which refers to the plausible and crude “Medieval Europe” wind worldview common in online novels. Twitter has a lot of criticism on “net-style Europe”. Simply put, it can be summarized as follows:

• is not the same as medieval Europe in the history of reality.
• Do not think about whether it is reasonable or simply to build a common routine.
• Although there are fantasy settings, it does not take into account the impact of fantasy settings on ecology and society.

And of these criticisms, of course, there are refutations, such as:

• It is clearly a fantasy world, why is it like the medieval Europe in reality?
• Set the reality and it won’t look better. The setting of “Dragon Ball” is also a lot of contradictions.
• There is a lot of unreasonable places in reality. Why do the different worlds have to be seamless?

The two factions, who stand in opposition, are not lacking in well-founded discussants, but also full of unreasonable and extreme arguments. They can’t tell who is right or wrong

And those who are truly engaged in fantasy creation tend to be more neutral and neutral: to be tolerant of others’ works, not to demand “reality”; to strive for excellence in their own works, seeking an interesting and reasonable balance

Love the comics of the medieval history.えんSay, the people in the historical circle, for the medieval European “wind” fantasy works, all know that it is not true, but it is The layman’s “net-style Europe” shows “how should the medieval Europe of this era be?” This 30-year-old knowledge, the historical circle will vomit “No, you are not right”; the crowd looked at it, but felt It is “the people in the historical circle are using their own knowledge to brush the sense of superiority”, making him feel like hell

Ghost Head also draws comics on the stage in the middle of the Middle Ages, but there are real problems in painting the main characters as “real medieval Europeans”; so he tries to draw passersby and background as “real medieval” “Recommended for the medieval lovers to read: the teeth and skin are very dirty, the town is full of people who have been executed by the public, and the limbs are broken… but no one wants to see this kind of thing.”

Ghost Head reiterated that many people in the historical circle are only criticizing the medieval European knowledge that uses real-world, but also based on old data and misunderstandings, to spur the medieval European fantasy (recently known as “net-style” People in the “world of Europe” want them not to spread the rumors of history, not to attack the world in their works

(https://twitter.com/kitoen2173/status/1165917745558376448).

Do you want to seek realism in the fantasy world, and it’s also a new old-fashioned stalk (the new voice of yesterday is also about this topic). However, the lack of new ideas can always bring us new discoveries. For example, in the recent criticism of “net-style Europe”, many people have pointed to the common fantasy setting (not from the net text): Why do adventurers pick up tasks in the pub? What is the “Adventurist Guild”? How is it profitable?

Network novelist Hui Jing Yong Cheng guessed that the Adventurer’s Guild may have begun to accept people’s commissions to get paid by people such as wandering knights and unemployed mercenaries; but as they teamed up, they gradually formed. The network of peers, the Adventurers Guild was also born as a peer association

Before, it was just a group of pirate thieves who had been officially recognized as a guild because they solved the commission made by a nobleman. The superb adventurers who served as the first-generation presidents were fully committed to improving the status of adventurers who were no different from thieves, and united the adventurers who disobeyed themselves

Or, the Adventurer’s Guild was originally protected by the church, like the Knights Templar in the real history, with religious thought and social dedication. In the world where monsters are spreading, it is a problem to protect the safety of the patrols, so at the beginning the guild received more commissions from the church

It is not difficult to imagine that the adventurer’s guild will continue to expand as long as it solves the problems that the knights cannot solve, and successfully attacks the powerful monsters. Because they are businessmen, they do not have the right to collect taxes, but they can also develop in the same way as the Mafia, and the aristocrats who suffer from maintaining the security of the territory can also reach a consensus

And because the Adventurers’ Guild receives commissions that cross territories and dominance, they can also establish a network that transcends territories, or they are entrusted to serve as guardians in the same town, while taking up the land. Communications industry. In this way, the branches can maintain a smooth connection and even get involved in currency exchange. The Adventurers Guild is so strong

Huijing thinks again that the currency of different land should be different, so the bills issued by the Adventurers Guild may even have high international credit as currency

He thinks that perhaps it is possible to write such a story: modern people who have reborn from modern Japan to different worlds have brought double-entry bookkeeping techniques, which has led to the explosive development of the Adventurers Guild

(https://twitter.com/terry10x12th/status/1165959747926810625).

Novelistカルロ・ゼンAlso seriously thought about the Adventurer’s Guild Income model: Since it is the Adventurers Guild, it is the guild, so there is the official recognition of the power of the lord or the municipality. Its income model is also subject to the legal and social status of the guild

Since it is a guild, it should be an officially recognized group; but most of the adventure guilds in the works are cross-regional groups. Even if the adventurer ran to other towns, there would be no other guilds opened by friends and relatives, only guilds under the same group. This is not so much the power of the guild, it is better to say that the Adventurers Guild has incredible privileges

The Empire Freedom City A’s Adventurers Guild, and the Duke’s City of the City, the Adventurer’s Guild is the same, and the privilege of the Adventurer’s Guild is already very significant. Moreover, if they can still read and write, open their own restaurants, wine fields, and most adventurers are free to enter and leave the gold, then the feudal lords must be blue

In the medieval world, is it really possible to have such an organization?

Really maybe

Specifically, you can refer to Roman Catholicism.カルロI think it should be easy to imagine. However, he feels that considering the actual situation of the Adventurers Guild, it may be more appropriate for the Eastern Orthodox Church to say that it is not similar. It is not a “one country, one church” but a “one country, one association”

In other words, the Adventurer’s Guild is the “third largest authority” alongside secular power and religious power. In this way, what kind of advantage can the Adventurer’s Guild gain based on privilege? For example, what kind of resistance does the adventurer’s crusade against the monster and the secular lord’s hunting rights in the collar?

カルロi think that when considering the so-called one-nation-one association system of the Adventurer’s Guild, you need to think, the adventurer In the end, is the guild “expanding from the grassroots level to the scale of today”, or is the “old administrative system developed into a guild”?

If it is the former, it can be imagined as an organization like the Knights Templar or the Hanseatic League

But it should be noted that the premise of the Knights Templar is the existence of the Pope Hall. They are officially recognized by the Holy See and have their own areas of domination. In addition, it must not be forgotten that the Knights Templar also has a powerful weapon, that is, they control finance. It is hard to say that the Knights of the Templar are so powerful, even if it is not Philip IV, whether the King can tolerate them to sleep on the side of their couch

So, what should you do to become a Hanseatic League like Hansa? The premise is that the nature of the Hanseatic League is close to the “urban alliance.” In other words, the Hanseatic-style adventurer’s guild is similar to expanding power to rule the city. This is also somewhat dangerous. In the final analysis, whether or not you can coexist with the lord class is a problem

The rest is the “retained system of the past” model. This model is the reality of the Roman Catholic Church. Although it does not preserve the “system of the Roman Empire” intact, it has also been inherited; although there will be various kinds of feudal lords. The problem is also closely related

So,カルロI think this mode is better written

In this way, the reason why the Adventurers Guild only controls the “savings” in the financial system, but also does not emphasize the “financing function.” Although fantasy works often write guilds to get paid to the account, it is rare to see who has started a big business from the guild financing

That is to say, although “custodial property” is one of the main businesses of the Adventurers Guild, “lending (and recycling) wealth” does not seem to be included in their original business. In other words, カルロI think, it can be said that the remittance is The main purpose of the Adventurers Guild. This is the time for the remittance to appear

The world in fantasy works is a world where adventurers’ guilds exist and monsters are arrogant. In this way, the ancient empire will be quite dangerous even if it transmits administrative documents. InカルロIt seems that the Roman Empire The system of transmission, or the Imperial Post of the Holy Roman Empire, would be convenient for the predecessor organization of the Adventurers Guild

The robbery of the bill of exchange is a very serious problem, so that in Japan, the postman carries the pistol earlier than the police. What’s more, there are monsters in the fantasy world, and it is even more difficult to arm. In this way, the post office strengthened its armed forces and evolved into an adventurer’s guild in the future

With this in mind, major cities have adventurer guilds that make sense. And because they have a long history, the privilege also has legitimacy: the adventurer moves across the border? This is their work as a postman since ancient times. The guild mission will send documents and the like, of course, but more like the legacy of past history, カルロVery interested: The reason why the Adventurers Guild is to send documents is because this is the condition that the guild can continue to exist. Other privileges, such as remittances and free movement, make sense. Other financial businesses such as financing and interest are subject to significant restrictions

However, the preconditions for this set of explanations are “giving the adventurers a reasonable legitimacy that they will not rub against existing authorities”, so there is no dream or romance

For dreams and romance, カルロThink about how to get the adventurers and their peers to unite and set up a guild

Q: How can an adventurer set up an adventurer’s guild?

A: Forged charter

A long time ago, there was something called “The Book of Constantine”. The great Emperor Constantine was very generous and said, “I want to dedicate the land to the church. The entire Western world is a church!” Because of this extremely convenient document, the Pope can claim that he has legal superiority to secular power. Sex

And this “Constantine Convent Book” was forged by the church

As such, the Adventurers’ Guild will only forge a fake old document, and the great emperor of the ancient empire established the Imperial Postal System, giving them various rights… just fine. Then, they can go to the monarchs who want to promote the power of the emperor, saying, “There is such a magic file that can send people to the vassal territory where your influence cannot reach…”.

As long as you get the above support, then it will be a matter of course

Probably, after a hundred or two years, whether it is the Adventurers Guild or the Emperor, you will forget that this document is forged. Deceive the whole world and let the adventurers unanimously tie together. Isn’t this the supreme romance?

(https://twitter.com/sonzaix/status/1165941346781163520).

カルロis so elated, but His old predecessor, light novelist Ge Xishen, feels that there is no need to be so troublesome:

There are monsters running out. The official security agencies are not going to evict the monsters themselves, but to invite free adventurers. In such a world, the ruling institutions may be weak

Whether it is for the king or for the people, it is more cost-effective to entrust the adventurer than to “the state is responsible for expelling Goblin, collecting taxes and manpower for this purpose.”

Otherwise, just set it up to have the Adventurers Guild, and then the country, how about?

(https://twitter.com/kasai_sinya/status/1165956831757225985)

The brain of the novelist Tongda is more dangerous. He envisioned an overhead history: 2000 years ago, the door of the Devil was opened all over the world, and the monsters poured into the earth. Ancient empire such as Rome and Han fought bloody battles, but eventually collapsed and entered the medieval feudal system. The great adventurer of the dawn of Jesus of Nazareth founded the Adventurist Guild…

Copper big one thought, this setting can really be. Replace the history of Christianity with the history of the Adventurers Guild. If magic and miracles are introduced along with the door of the Devil, then the church that inherits and manages them is the most suitable organization. The monks (explorers) they cultivated spread to all parts of Europe

The early church was a place like a gathering place and a walled city. The monks (explorers) who have gained the grace of God through the exercise have broken into the land where the demons gather, expelling the demons and reclaiming the territory. But in this case, the existence of the secular prince will be thin, and various parts of Europe will become different monastic leaders

In this case, the church = adventurer’s guild = the lord, the guild is the work of the abbot or the bishop. And with the door of the Devil’s Gate closed, the Mozu stopped invading, the world returned to peace, and the monk (explorer) lost the necessity, and this form began to waver

Around 1000, the door of the Devil was closed. Except for the Mozu who remained on Earth, no new Devils came. At the same time, the magic of flowing into the earth through the door has become thin, miracles are hard to happen, and monks (adventurers) have lost their absolute status. After another 400 years, the twelve apostles were also secularized, and the king began to appear

The bishop (the Adventurist), originally appointed by the Pope, began to be appointed by the secular monarch, and the opposition between the monarch and the theocracy intensified. It was the Pope who let the King stand barefoot in the snow, and the King’s captives imprisoned the Pope. The church’s status was low. There was also a king who inherited the Mozu bloodline, causing a religious war and gradually shrinking to our original history

After gunpowder and coal, steel and steam engines, in 2000, people thought it would usher in the history of mankind. The door of the Devils was once again opened at this time. The Mozu was also influenced by the humans who had entered the Devil. With the soul organs and ghosts thinking about the machine, they once again began to invade the Earth and entered the era of chaos. The Adventurers’ Guild is also resurrected in the form of a civil-military enterprise

(https://twitter.com/bakagane/status/1165944816275865603)